Euphemia Russell and Slow Pleasure

Euphemia

Yeah, so as you introduced me, I created the term full spectrum pleasure coach, because I was trying to find a shorthand for the approach of how I explore pleasure, and hold space for people to explore pleasure. So I started, actually as a sex educator, and I realised, oh, sexual pleasure is one type of pleasure, but there’s a whole spectrum of pleasure. And then I evolved into discovering Somatics, which the way that I describe Somatics. A lot of people think of it as just body focused, but I think of it as whole focused. So it’s thoughts, feelings, sensations, and if you have a relationship with spirituality, then spirit as well. And I think the reason why we can think that it’s just body focused is because in terms of equity, of bringing more attention to the body, because we already give so much attention to the mind, and more so to the feelings, but less so to the body and sensations. So it’s actually about being able to be aware of all of those things and all of those connections at the same time, to be able to reveal how we really feel and how we can act in alignment with our values and our desires and move towards a transformation over and over again, for the sake of ourselves and a collective. So that’s how I see it. I see it as like a hybrid of political because it’s being aware of the structures we live in and being aware of the ways that we’ve been socialised and shaped, and also sharing tools for how we can change. So in short, I have blended pleasure and Somatics together, which they go together very well, but it’s not actually often combined. I don’t know many people who combine them, but the way that I bring pleasure and Somatics together is through movement, through being aware of the body and focusing on pleasure in the everyday actions, to be able to create a relationship with our pleasure and to pause and listen to what we want and need and desire and our boundaries and so on, and then be able to invite in more pleasure or more choice. And so in the end, I think that Somatics and pleasure is fundamentally about choice. It’s how do we create more choice and be aware of the choices in each moment for how we want to act, move, feel, be, and whatever else specific to that moment. So that’s a lot to fit into one answer, but there’s a lot to it at the same time.

Anwyn

Yeah, well, it’s interesting that you say that people focus on the mind, and I think some people focus on the body too much as well. And so you really do need to bring them together. As Deepak Chopra said, the mind body connection, which seemed so foreign for people 30 years ago. But it’s something that I think people are starting to be a bit more aware of, that it is an all encompassing thing, isn’t it?

Euphemia

Totally Yeah. I often think about the Enlightenment era and French philosopher Descartes and how he proposed that belief of, I think, therefore I am”, and how much that has shaped the way we act in society. And what we value and how challenging that is to undo.

Anwyn

How challenging it is to undo? So what do you mean by that? Give me an example of that?

Euphemia

Well, the way that I approach Somatics and pleasure is that it’s a practice of remembering. It’s not a practice of learning, so that we actually have an inherent relationship with ourselves and our thoughts, feelings, sensations. But we’ve been socialised, conditioned or shaped to divorce ourselves from listening.

Anwyn

And not trusting.

Euphemia

And not trusting exactly of seeing the body as corrupting us or pleasure as corrupting us or distraction. And I think that’s a mixture of religion. It’s a mixture of many things. I talk about how my spirituality is mundanity, and the etymology of that is of the earth. So it’s like body and earth, and how in terms of colonial thinking, we have divorced ourselves from our connection to our bodies and our connections to the earth as a sense of superiority and a power over and so therefore not necessarily to undo, but to remember. It’s a process of Oh, I inherently know how to do this, I just need to rebuild that relationship. It’s like relearning a language that you once knew.

Anwyn

Like the indigenous people of this country, like they didn’t have an attachment to the land as such, like as a thing to have like the Westerners did when they came. They  were thinking that it’s like the spirits, and that they are embodied in that.

Euphemia

Yeah. I take a lot of the way I see my spirituality is animism, which is seeing that everything is alive, which is very much the belief of many indigenous cultures, is seeing that the mountains are people. You know, they’re all beings, the mountains, the rivers, the trees, the rocks, the clouds, the sky, when we view all of those beings as beings, it shifts our relationship dramatically. And I think that embodiment and Somatics, when we can be more connected to our own body, it transforms our relationship with the world around us and how we treat and respect and savour and treasure what already is here and how to have a healthy, nourishing relationship.

Anwyn

Yeah, like you were saying, the collective, isn’t it? When you consider it as a one, then you have more respect for that,  a continuation of yourself. Yeah, nice.

Euphemia

That’s the dream. 

Anwyn

So is that all part of the connection? When you think of connection, what do you think of?

Euphemia

So my greatest hope for my clients and people that I hold space for through facilitation and coaching is aliveness and nourishing connection. And I talk about how I believe that pleasure is a direct path to aliveness and embodiment is a direct path to nourishing connection. And embodiment is pretty similar in my mind, to Somatics, which is just being aware of your whole self, so your thoughts, your feelings, your sensations, your connection to the world around you in this moment. And to me, that is connection is when we can be present with ourselves and present with the world around us. Then how we can have that as a mutuality, so a nourishment that actually flows both ways, and that when we can see the world as an extension of ourselves, then the way that we treat ourselves and others and the world around us feeds into each other. And so I suppose what I mean by connection is nourishment and mutuality.

Anwyn

Amazing. Do you think that touch is important in that? obviously!

Euphemia

I mean, I’m, I’m very much a touch person when it comes to senses. And I think that’s a great question. I think that touch helps us bring our attention. Not that we only touch with hands. But for example, we have the most nerve endings in our hands, after our genitals and our mouth. And so they’re like information senses and we often give, but we don’t necessarily receive with them. And so through touch, we can actually see that as like a both way experience of when I touch someone else or when I touch myself, I am reading information about where I’m at. I’m bringing attention to somewhere it’s so much easier, for example, to tune into what is happening in my stomach when I put my hand there, because you’re bringing your attention and where your attention goes, your blood flows and you are picking up information and also it feels good. Not everyone necessarily likes touch. So neurodivergent people can have a really different relationship with touch from someone else, maybe compared to themselves, or however it may be, we have different sensitivities. So I don’t think touch is necessarily essential. Obviously it creates hormones between people in terms of oxytocin and bonding. That’s really beautiful to be able to have that injection of hormones that encourage us and remind us how good it can feel. Touch is such an important, powerful tool for attention and presence. Also that movement can do similar things. So in terms of accessibility, Oh I can’t touch because I don’t have the ability or I don’t want to, how can movement bring a similar experience as well? What do you think about that? I’m intrigued to hear.

Anwyn

Yeah, I totally agree. I’ve found from my experience, that connection to other people and touch is really important and that it can bridge some times when words can’t always. When you’re able to reach out and touch somebody of course like you say, in a consensual way, it has a different level to it, like it can really develop a strength, a bond, yes it’s so lovely.

Euphemia

I mean, I suppose that’s nourishing connection.

Anwyn

Yes, And so how does that fit into relationships? How do you develop relationships?

Euphemia

Do you mean any type of a relationship, or more like physically intimate relationships?

Anwyn

both, obviously your intimate one is the more important one that you would spend more time with and more energy in.

Euphemia

What I often suggest to clients is in not necessarily scheduling sex, but protecting and prioritising time together that is pleasure focused. And it’s mutual, pleasure focused and often that is just about bringing bodies back together, because our mind and our lives and the busyness can make us feel like islands and forget how simple a hug can feel, or how simple holding someone or holding someone’s hands or feet or face, or however that may be, and that it’s how to protect time in your life to come back to the simple power of touch and physical intimacy. And that once we have that kind of meeting, we’ll often soften and open and be softer and more open, physically, mentally and emotionally, and there from that place, then It can allow whatever kind of connection wants to happen. So for example, I suggest to people to protect time like that, and then just see it as like an experiment in time, where it doesn’t need to be sexual. It doesn’t need to look a particular way. You can just write a list of things that you might want to explore and might be like tickling the back of my knees and seeing if they’re ticklish, or seeing if you can find the little spot on your foot that makes you giggle the most. Like it can be physical, but it doesn’t need to be sexual. And then from that place, it makes it playful and light hearted and it makes it feel like there’s more room and oxygen in the connection. Rather than the pressure of we need to have sex. It needs to look this way. We need to make sure and all of that begins with touch and presence.

Anwyn

That’s beautiful. Yeah, you have said that you’re going through a big transition at the moment. Can you explain a little bit about that?

Euphemia

I don’t talk a lot about my own life and my work, I often find that I de-centre my own experience. I’ll speak to the kind of collective vague experience without details, because I don’t want people to be attached to how they think a process should look for themselves. But I’ll speak to a kind of the season of where I’m in, which is that after writing a book for two years and lockdowns and the last year being much more open socially in terms of coming out of lockdowns and people being vaccinated, that the world has felt very how I like to call it “squishy” There’s so many things on there’s so many things happening and I used to live in another city in California and I’ve just moved to here a year and a bit ago. So compounding a new place, a book coming out, me changing my work focus that I’ve been waiting to do once the book had processed or at least writing had finished, meant that my last year was very squishy and very full and very demanding. Now for me, seasonally, I’m in winter and that for me is just like a pruning. It’s a coming back and it’s a realising, Oh wow Summer, I really got carried away. I thought I was grounded. But the beauty of that kind of season is that you do get carried away and at the same time you slow down and that is beautiful. And also, how can I reground? How can I prune away the things that don’t serve me? How can I come back into alignment? How can I sow the seeds in spring and feel as though what’s to come feels nourishing and in alignment with my desires and my needs? And so I think that this transition right now is just a process of that. It’s what doesn’t serve me. What did I over commit to? How am I rearranging myself in this new world, in terms of this late era in the pandemic and being in a new place? And so there’s just been a lot of reflection and pruning and change and Somatics and movement and pleasure are my cornerstones to that. They hold me and serve me again and again. And I’m just in such deep awe. Thank goodness I have these.

Anwyn

Yeah. So how do they make it easier? Somatics?

Euphemia

They bring me back into connection, deeper and deeper in myself, I see it like a spiral where you come back to a practice again and you realise that it’s deeper, it’s more nuanced, it’s richer, it reveals more. And so you can do the same somatic practice again and again and be, Oh wow, this used to feel or be completely different. And so in a way, it’s like a yardstick to measure change and it also helps me to be with myself in the most real way, like there’s nothing covering it. There’s not me trying to think or say or justify. It’s just where I am right now? How do I feel right now? And tending to that again and again. It’s small actions, I love to talk about micro-dosing pleasure and the small, everyday moments and they accumulate. And I believe that that is what shapes us, or that’s how we shape ourselves. And so in a big transition, Somatics help reveal me, they help ground me, they help nourish me. They help me be aware of where I’m truly at and they feel good. Just to move to be, to feel like that quality of attention with myself is really nourishing too.

Anwyn

And congratulations on your book too, Slow pleasure. Very enjoyable read and practice too. I like what you said about pruning, that’s really interesting and the seasons too. Our children went to a Steiner School, and so they talk about brother wind and I think that these elements affect us more than we think that they do. And people always go to weather as a conversational piece, like there’s nothing to talk about. But it is something that obviously affects us. We’ve had a lot of heat at the moment and so people’s mood can be down or, you know, like it changes, your physical body changes your emotions.

Euphemia

Totally! Yeah, I see that like an extension of co-regulation. You can co-regulate your nervous system with other people, I don’t know how to explain this. I feel a sense of okay when I can attune myself to the world around me, I can settle myself. Instead of trying to fight winter for example and be like, I’m gonna do, do, do, do, do, do, do. It’s like If I can be in unison and in sync with what already is, and allow the cycles and seasons of life. Rather than what capitalism and our current structures expect us to do, which is just to believe there are no seasons and cycles in ourselves, internally or externally. It actually makes it so much more easeful in an effective way. Not in a doing nothing way, but when we work with what is, it’s amazing how different it is.

Anwyn

Yeah, you and I mentioned something about like embodying, like being an animal. Is that, right? Like the seasons?

Euphemia 

I think I talked about that in terms of my Unfurling launch. I spoke about doing intuitive movement and being aware of different animals. I was talking about the desired feelings. So what are three desired feelings that you want to orient towards? And sometimes, if we make that really cerebral, it’s a distant concept. Whereas, if we can have something that represents that feeling to us like, for example, playfulness. What’s a really playful animal that I can be reminded of, how can I embody that more? So maybe it’s, a sea otter or a monkey or a dolphin. What animal represents that kind of feeling you want to cultivate, can help ground us in what that can look like and feel like in your own life. 

Anwyn

That’s cool. Yeah, as soon as you said dolphin, I was just thinking of that laugh that they have, you know?

So intelligent. I’ve always been fascinated with dolphins. I just think they’re amazing creatures. I actually have a couple of questions too from our listeners.

Euphemia

Oh, cool. Yeah. 

Anwyn

So somebody asked about motivation. How do you use Somatics to get motivated?

Euphemia

That’s such a great question. In my Somatics training, there’s this framework, which I have found so helpful. Which is the cycle of action, and there’s four stages to it. So there’s the beginning building, containing and completing. And we can each find, we can find that in different areas of our lives, or just maybe generally, that we are stronger at some and for want of a better word, weaker in other areas. So for me personally, I’m not a great starter. It’s not my natural place. I’m a good builder, container and completer, but starting, I’m just like, Oh, don’t make me. And so perhaps that could be a way of looking at it, and that, for example, if the motivation is about starting, then it’s what physical movement can you do? So maybe it’s literally just taking a step and really taking a very conscious step, and doing that practice again and again, a few times, to feel what it is like to move and take action and begin. Or maybe motivation is around containing and holding and being with an experience, rather than starting it, finishing it, and not building it and containing it. And okay what movement or action can help you feel like you’re holding something and containing it and being with it, and really feeling that in your body and yourself. I encourage you and anyone else who is interested, thinking about what is my relationship in this particular project or action? And how am I approaching those four stages of starting, building, containing and completing? If you’re needing motivation, where do you need it? And also, the other part that I would say is that often we think about pleasure as a reward. Once we’ve completed something, it’s like a carrot. It’s like, oh, I’m only allowed that once I’m done my job. We’ve been socialised into believing that it’s like delayed gratification makes us seem more successful, more able, whatever it is, like denying ourselves pleasure. And so I encourage you to see, how can you resource yourself with pleasure? How can you fuel yourself with pleasure? And that has been such a huge shift in my life that I realised. I used to say, You can’t do this thing until you’ve completed this task. Rather, maybe the motivation is, how can you resource yourself first. If you need to do a hard thing you say, If I make myself a hot chocolate before I sit down and do my taxes? Or how can I bring as much pleasure as possible into this action? I need to do this hard, boring thing. Okay. How can I fuel myself with pleasure? Perhaps it’s I’ll masturbate first, I’ll go for a walk, I’ll read a few pages of my book, I’ll have a nice meal, whatever it is, and then I’ll do the thing, or I’ll do those nice things while I’m doing that action. So really shifting that belief of pleasure being fuel rather than a reward. So those two things, I would say, work really well. And then the third is, just listen to your body as we were just talking about the seasons and cycles. Maybe you’re just pushing against something that is actually not going to happen right now, and when you rest, you can come back to it, and you’re probably doing it in less than half the time, or you’ll do it more thoughtfully. So yeah, consider your relationship fuel yourself with pleasure, and maybe it’s rest and find the right time.

Anwyn

Yeah? Like, if it goes against your values, then it’s not going to work. If it’s you’re trying to push and you’re trying to do something that you think that other people want you to do.

Euphemia

So true, And also, sometimes shit just needs to be done.

Anwyn

In my work with NLP, that’s something that people aren’t aware of sometimes, Is that every emotion that we have, we actually have access to. So people say, oh, I want to be more happy, or this or that, but actually you can be in any given moment. Like, what you say is a remembering. You can take yourself back to a time when you felt that feeling, and be in that moment and have that like fuel you, motivate you. We can tap into any emotion that we want to.

Euphemia

I love that Yeah, how to have the choice and to know the choices.

Anwyn

And also acknowledging, sometimes we think that we don’t have something, but we actually do. We just aren’t seeing it for the true value that it is.

Euphemia

Oh yeah, like savouring it or appreciating it?

Anwyn

Yes, savouring it. So someone else was saying, How can pleasure affect our behaviour and our well being?

Euphemia

Infinite ways? Yes. Well, I mean, there’s the science behind pleasure in our well being, in terms of health and immune system and boosting and feeling connected. And there’s all that science and also that pleasure is, as I were saying, a direct path to aliveness. And when we feel the most alive we feel often in my experience, life is the best. It can be the most simple moment. The quality of everything, the quality of our perception and how everything is changes. And it’s not like a sugar coating or bypassing, but it’s just a “I feel alive”. And really in essence, I think that’s the point of life. So how can you keep orienting back to feeling alive? And often people will say to me, oh, but pleasure is hedonistic, or distraction, or whatever it may be. In that sense of pleasure and well being, I say to people, well, have a think about what might not be easeful now to invest in, but can bring you pleasure again and again. It’s not necessarily the convenient pleasures every time or the quick pleasures. Maybe that’s just like a quick hit of something. It’s how can you do the actions that will build your capacity for pleasure and build your capacity to remember bringing pleasure into every moment and creating a relationship with pleasure that will build well being and connection over time. And so an example of that is like, instead of doing the quick thing when it comes to pleasure, like, oh, I’ll go without doing my movement practice, because that feels like the easier option, and it will kind of make me feel good right now, to not have to do anything. And perhaps the more invested, nourishing option for pleasure is, oh, I’ll do my movement practice. I’ll just do it for 30 seconds. It’s not trying to be perfect. It’s not trying to be all or nothing. It’s even 30 seconds will make me feel good, and it will help me build a practice and a relationship with pleasure. So often when it comes to well being, we often think there’s a lot of shame around well being and how to do things perfectly and well. And so I encourage any practices with pleasure to be about how to be messy and imperfect and do micro practices and micro dosing of anything. And then maybe you’ll say, I can stop after 30 seconds, and you get to 30 seconds and be like, oh, I want to keep going. It feels good. And so it’s building our capacity over time. It’s not just about pleasure. Is not just about the easy, defaulting option always.

Anwyn

I like that. And what are some of the ways pleasure can vary across individuals and cultures?

Euphemia

Oh my gosh, is that a question from someone that submitted, that’s a huge question. Would you please say that again?

Anwyn

What are some of the ways pleasure can vary across individuals and cultures? Have you experienced a lot of cultures?

Euphemia

I have clients from all over the world, yet I’m not going to claim to be an expert in the ethnographic shaping of pleasure over cultures, because that is a huge thing. And so I’ll answer the between the individuals, and then I’ll answer the between the cultures. But between individuals, of course, we are all shaped differently. I mean that in terms of all our influences, from who we are innately, to our family, to our communities, to the institutions that we’ve been shaped by, the structures, the society we live in, our relationship with spirituality and land, like all of them shape us. And we often over emphasise the idea of our parents and ourselves, and we forget all of the others. And so all of those shape us in our pleasure. And so each of us have a different map of how pleasure looks to us, how we’ve been socialised into it. And then we all have in terms of nerve endings, and like the neurobiology, we all have different sensitivities or areas that light us up, or areas that feel good or feel too ticklish, or maybe feel painful. So on a neurobiological level, it’s very different, and that might be shaped by past experiences or fetishes or desires as well. Now I have so much appreciation for my hands because I had this experience in the past that has made me realise that. So I think between individuals it’s so vast and varied, particularly when we learn how to listen to ourselves rather than default to what we’ve inherited around how pleasure should look and be. And that’s beautiful, so beautiful. So there aren’t any standard needs or wants or how pleasure looks. And I think that’s the same in culture. Of course, in terms of culture they’re institutions and structures look very different, and how that can influence our families or our communities, how our relationship is with pleasure. As we were speaking about before, like religion, philosophy and the Enlightenment era, all of those things have shaped different cultures, different countries, different societies. Also shame and guilt, and how that is more prevalent in some cultures and less prevalent, and how that can divorce us from our own pleasure or bodies.

Anwyn

That’s good that you bring up shame and guilt. I totally agree. That it’s a block, isn’t it? For a lot of people?

Euphemia

It’s unfortunately  true. I believe in every culture in some capacity, because it’s been a mechanism of control. That when people feel shame and feel guilt, they’re easier to manipulate. That when we are connected to ourselves and our bodies, we are listening to ourselves, not disrespecting or ignoring the world around us, but we filter the world and what we believe our values and our ethics and how we want to act happens, and so shame and guilt and disconnecting us from our body is absolutely a form of cultural, societal control.

Anwyn

And another question is, I struggle with languaging pleasure at the lower end of the spectrum as “Pleasure”. What are some other ways we could be experiencing pleasure but mislabeling it?

Euphemia

Everyday pleasure? I’m such a fan and advocate of not just sexual pleasure, but how can you bring 10% more pleasure into any action, any process, any moment, and that might be really simple things. It’s micro adjustments. It’s I could adjust how I’m sitting right now to create more Ezure (pleasure). More ease or pleasure?

Anwyn

There’s a new word. It’s ease and pleasure – Ezure

Euphemia

It also sounds like edging, is pleasure and edging! So that is a lot of how I approach my work and how I guide clients, is seeing pleasure as a relationship that we cultivate in every moment, and that it can be just 10% more. How can I bring even 1% more pleasure into this moment?  And it’s seeing pleasure as a state of enjoyment, and then deepening that when you savour it. And so even if it’s savouring that 1% more of pleasure, you are cultivating more pleasure in your life, and de-centring the idea that pleasure can only come from sex, or particularly sex with other people. So it’s a reclaiming. Does that answer the question?

Anwyn

Absolutely. We hear a lot about boundaries these days and you did mention boundaries earlier. What’s your thoughts on that?

Euphemia

Yeah I have a section in slow pleasure about boundaries. It’s not a long section, but it is a section which has lots of examples of how to create boundaries. And I think that often we’re in a kind of adolescent stage with boundaries collectively. We think of boundaries as like ‘no’ or ‘no go away’ and like a stone walling. I prefer to see boundaries as discernment. It’s like a filter of discernment, where we’re discerning and filtering what goes out into the world, like we have boundaries with ourselves, and then we have boundaries with others. They might be more filtered or less filtered depending on our relationship, our capacity and our desires. I think it’s really important to see and discern in each moment with each person, what is my capacity? What is my discernment around what I want to give and what I want to receive, and what is my capacity, in general for those things.

Anwyn

Yeah, great. Would you be interested in doing a little practice now? Leading something?

Euphemia

Of course, Do you have any requests, any topics that we’ve spoken about today that would be nice to support?

Anwyn

Around relationships and connection probably?

Euphemia

The first one that comes to mind, which is not necessarily a movement practice or a somatic practice, but I think is such a powerful practice in relationships of any kind. This doesn’t need to be only with romantic or sexual  partners. It’s sharing three appreciations for each other, even if there’s been like an argument and it’s been a really hard moment, it’s orienting back to appreciation, orienting back to the greater context by the end. Maybe the first one will be really hard because you’re like, I’m just annoyed at you right now. And then the second one, you’re like, Oh, that’s nice. And the third one, you’re like, Ah, now I’ve softened and opened, and I can be more receptive. So I encourage you to do that with anyone. It could be with a child or a friend or a family member. Hey are you down to share three appreciations for each other, and you take turns. The end result of feeling more soft, open and present. Seen, heard and appreciated is such a beautiful, ripe place to then act from. To feel closer together, more intimacy, more trust and more safety. And so that’s the first practice that comes to mind, which is such a beautiful practice.

Anwyn

That’s nice. My last podcast, I was talking about grief, because my mother has just died and I wondered what your thoughts on grief are? I certainly found all the pleasurable moments in my life with her, which was really amazing. And in the eulogy, I actually did a little mini meditation at the end where I asked people to go into their bodies and feel what they were feeling and feel their own kindness and compassion, because they were my mother’s values. So that was actually quite beautiful to see 100 people in front of me with their eyes closed. I felt very in my body too.

Euphemia

What a legacy that your mother left.

Anwyn

Yes, well, she actually led meditation groups, so that’s why I had to do that. 

Euphemia

So beautiful. What a gift and legacy she left for it to be kindness and compassion and meditation.

I love that a lot. I think a lot about grief, and I have a blog on my website around death and grief, because I think it’s so, so important to have an intimate relationship with and is inextricably linked with pleasure. I’ve thought a lot about grief and there is a quote that says,” that grief is love with no place to go”. And I don’t know if I fully believe in that. That’s not exactly my relationship with grief, but I think that there is an acuteness to grief that makes us very alive to our feelings, very alive to how we feel in a moment. And of course, that can be really overwhelming, and that grief does not wait and doesn’t have a schedule, it just comes when it comes. And that like embodiment in general, the more embodied we can be with our grief, the more we can allow it to move through and visit us like an honoured guest, with wisdom and lessons and allow it to pass through. Rather than holding on to it or resisting it. And I imagine that that is the way you are grieving. That it’s very much with that wisdom and clearly very intentional in the way that you are honouring your mother and moving through that and bringing celebration and aliveness to it too.

Anwyn

Yes, we had a lot of laughs at her funeral. She would have liked that. 

You have a program called, unfurling?

Euphemia

It’s six months of intuitive movement and coaching and exploring our socialised characters and the ways that they can be a barrier to pleasure. And there’s integration sessions with creativity and journaling and movement, and it’s just going to be so lush and amazing. And the idea is to create movement and playfully explore and expand our capacity for pleasure and aliveness. And I’m so excited, it’s going to be really great!

Anwyn

Beautiful. And so where can people reach you?

Euphemia

My website is the easiest place to reach me is : https://euphemiarussell.com/blog

Anwyn

Excellent. And is there anything you’d like to say to finish?

Euphemia

Thank you for having me, it’s such a pleasure.

I always enjoy when we meet and when we interact, so it’s nice to have deeper, long form time.

Anwyn

Oh it’s been my pleasure entirely. Thank you so much for your time today. It’s been amazing.